Tuesday, 15 June 2010

How to make the medicine go down?

Just got off the phone with Mrs Beal who has a Rottie Bullmastiff cross with an aggressive cancer. Her dog HATES the vit c part of his meds. He spits it out and just loathes having his medicine.
Mrs Beal wants to know - is it okay to administer the Cv247 and the vit c separately? Also if it would be okay to put either it alone or the whole lot in tomato puree which seems to neutralise the astringent taste a little.
Mrs Beal went to see John many years ago with another dog and we both agreed how sad it is we can't just ask John these questions direct!
We were also recalling how John used to squirt the Cv247 into the dogs mouths, he was so quick they didn't seem to get to taste the stuff. We couldn't decide whether the mix included the vit c at that stage (early 90s) or not?
Does anyone remember if the Dr Linus powder was given separately or not?
Did anyone go to John with a brachycephalic breed? Mrs Beal says that the pointing and squirting is much more complicated in breeds with a very short nose as there's so much extra skin inside the mouth that you can't get a clear shot.
Anyone got any tips?
Would tomato puree be something John would shake his head at and curse? He hated mushrooms, raspberries etc - but I can't for the life of me remember his stance on tomatoes!


  1. We used to give Heidi her CV247 mixed in a small amount of mushed up chicken and veg on a saucer before feeding her main meal a few minutes later. After discussing this further with Barbara Jones (Oakwood Vets, Oswestry) she said that there didn't appear to be any difference in feeding the CV247 mixed in with the food or separately so we started to put it straight into her food about a year ago. She's still getting stronger and has had no recurrance of any lumps or bumps.

    I have noticed that my new vet uses a different vitamin C to the one Barbara used to give me. This one doesn't dissolve and doesn't give off that lovely citrus aroma. I wondered whether the type of vitamin C is important? If it isn't then it may be that something like Ester C may be a better choice for Mrs. Beal's dog. Ester C is an easily digestible form of vitamin C and is kinder on the stomach.

    I should imagine it's more difficult for those whose animals were treated by JC to even consider any other way of doing things, especially when the results have been so incredible. In our case, Heidi is a very cheeky little wonder and we have become almost blase about her treatment now and look on it more as health maintenance so can possibly "get away" with such tweaks as the one mentioned above. If you're reading this Barbara, any comments?

  2. Can CV247 be given to cats? My cat has lymphoma and I have found 1 website were it suggest that it shouldn't be given to cats, but doesn't offer an explanation.

  3. Yes, CV247 has been used on lots of cats in the past. Perhaps contact one of the vets on the list for more details? See panel to the right for link.

  4. Only the purest form of vitamin C and specifically Linus (not Dr Linus) vitamin C powder should be given. This is quite inexpensive and can be ordered from your local chemist I have found. John was quite specific that the vitamin C should contain no other additives or be manufactured because the body can expel this vitamin C naturally. Any vitamin C product that is manufactured will not be able to be expelled naturally by the body once it has used all it needs and it is an important part of the cure. He would not advocate tomato puree because of the added e nos and colourants - organic and natural wherever possible.